Budget

“The plan is the process.”

Sound familiar? Conservative pundits have twisted Brown’s quote about the state budget from a June interview on CNBC into a contention that he lacks specific plans for everything from taxes to business to state government as a whole.

Most of those claims are exaggerated, but the roots of the quote say a lot about Brown’s plan for wrestling with the perennially late state budget.

At the core of Brown’s budget plans are two simple precepts: start early, and be open. Brown has promised that if he is elected, he will begin meeting with legislators even before his inauguration. He recently called for unspecified “key decisions” to be voted on as early as June.

In an interview with Univision in August, Brown proposed breaking budget priorities into five or 10 categories and said he “won’t let legislators do other bills” until those key areas are reconciled. Whitman has floated a similar idea, though neither candidate has specified how that would be accomplished, beyond exercising veto power.

Brown has also consistently talked about meeting with lawmakers in both small and large groups in budget discussions – a departure from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (and other governors over the past couple decades), who tends to work most visibly with Assembly and Senate leadership during budget negotiations.

Brown’s calls for budget transparency have at times taken a paternal tone. He has promised to level honestly with taxpayers, lawmakers and interest groups about the condition of the state’s finances and several times has proposed letting voters decide for themselves, via referenda, what state spending priorities should be.

When he has been pressed on proposed cuts, Brown has offered few specifics, typically saying he would begin by cutting perks from the governor’s office and press the Legislature to do the same. Specifically, his budget plan also calls for "immediate cuts, especially in the areas of press and communications, lawyers and other staff who are duplicative with agency personnel." Pension reform, prison health care and Medi-Cal are other areas he has identified as ripe for cost-cutting.

In his official budget plan, Brown said he will veto new spending programs that do not come with adequate revenue sources and would propose a constitutional amendment to require new ballot initiatives to raise revenue to cover their costs. He advocates zero-based budgeting -- effectively starting each agency's budget from scratch each year -- until the state's finances stabilize.

Like Whitman, Brown supports enacting laws that would strip legislators of their pay and per diem allowances if they miss budget deadlines. He also said he would prioritize the creation of a rainy day fund.

Unlike Whitman, he opposes cutting the state’s capital gains tax. He also told the San Jose Mercury News in July that he, like many Democrats, favors Proposition 25, which would allow the budget to be passed by simple majority vote (taking away Republican leverage in the process). He has repeatedly said he will not allow tax increases unless voters approve them.

Brown has made frugality a cornerstone of his campaign message throughout. He often cites choices during his two terms in office from 1975 to 1983, such as renting an apartment rather than living in the governor’s mansion, as evidence of his spendthrift credentials.

Key statements

Jerry Brown
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Sept. 7, 2010

On whether he’ll cut pension benefits: Well, I urge you to go to my web page and see my pension reform plan, my jobs plan, my education plan, and there will be several others between now and the election. Look, we’ve got to make tough decisions, we’ve got to live within our means, but we have to do it in a way that’s fair to everybody. Everything’s going to be on the table, but everyone will be at the table. And we’re not going to do it overnight, we’re not going to wait till September – we’re going to start in November. I’m going to call the entire legislature together, even the ones who have just gotten elected, and we’re going to work it through. So very quickly we can arrive at a consensus on a narrow band of issues that we can then work through or take to the people for their instructions.

Source: Los Angeles Times
Tags: Budget, Leadership style, State legislature, State workers, Policy or issue position, Promise
Jerry Brown
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Sept. 3, 2010

On his budget plan: "The path forward is an honest time-on task which has never been done in the history of California...No governor has ever opened his budget in November. They keep it secret. They work it out among their department heads. They have a few private meetings. And they release it in January.'' "I'm saying, intensity and nothing else....six days a week..I'll have those people locked up in my own chamber and put my own cot out there if I have to."

Source: San Francisco Chronicle
Tags: Budget, State legislature, Policy or issue position
Jerry Brown
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Aug. 26, 2010

"I'm not going to wait by the way until August 25," Brown said, referring to legislators still deliberating the current budget. "They're still not sure. I'm going to start about a week after the election. ... With enough energy and strength, I would start some time in early November. I'm going to ask all 120 legislators to keep working until we get it done. That's never happened before. But it'll happen this time and we will get it done."

Source: Sacramento Bee
Tags: Budget, State legislature, Promise, Specific policy point or details
Jerry Brown
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Aug. 26, 2010

As for how he would tackle the state's multi-billion dollar budget deficit if elected governor, Brown said, "I would tee up some key decisions for people to vote on as early as June. We must go back to the voters, get new instructions on what to cut and where we're going to re-formulate our state-local government relationships."

Source: KGTV (ABC - San Diego)
Tags: Budget, Leadership style, State legislature, Specific policy point or details
Jerry Brown
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Aug. 10, 2010

"I want to break it up into maybe five or maybe ten categories and then talk to the people and ultimately, if we can't get those legislators to align spending with revenue, we're going to go to the people in-in a vote, like a referendum and we'll give them some choices. We need our instructions from the people to tell us what we should do and I'm not going to wait 'til June or July. We have to start in November, we can't, I won't let the legislators do other bills.

Source: San Francisco Chronicle
Tags: Budget, Policy or issue position
Jerry Brown
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July 30, 2010

In other matters Thursday, Brown said he favored a proposed ballot measure eliminating California's requirement that budgets be approved by two-thirds of the Legislature. Whitman opposes the idea of requiring only a simple majority.

Source: San Jose Mercury News
Tags: Budget, State legislature, Specific policy point or details
Jerry Brown
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July 16, 2010

Kudlow: Why aren't you out there pounding on lower taxes because the state's not competitive anymore? Where are you on this stuff? Jerry Brown: She's not talking about an overall lower marginal tax rate, she has a lot of little, picky, little tax break for this group and a little tax break for that group. If you want to restructure the track system, and lower the marginal rates and spread out the base, that could be a very fine plan. But it's going to take a process. You're not going get it by a little pamphlet. And you've also got to deal with the fact that we've got a $19 billion deficit. And you're going to have to go over each department and start cutting this thing back in the best way you can. It isn't just snapping your fingers, and saying five tax breaks in a pamphlet.

Source: CNBC
Tags: Budget, Taxes, Candidate attack, Policy or issue position
Jerry Brown
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July 12, 2010

* BROWN HAS ALWAYS PRACTICED PERSONAL FRUGALITY IN GOVERNMENT SERVICE. “The irony is that Brown was known at the time as a frugal governor. He declined to live in the governor's mansion and drove a shabby blue Plymouth.” Since becoming Attorney General in 2006, Brown has returned over $231 million to the State treasury. Brown achieved these budget savings by freezing new hiring, eliminating nearly 800 positions, folding ten divisions into four, and Brown decreased in-state travel by 47%, out-of-state travel by 72%, and overtime by 29%. [Sacramento Bee, 4/24/10; California Department of Justice]

Source: Jerry Brown campaign
Tags: Budget, Leadership style, Assertion of fact
Jerry Brown
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July 1, 2010

"Anything you do, whether to cut or seek revenue, is going to require a vote of the people," Brown said. "That's really my plan – for the first time, level with the people and key up a couple of key choices on what the direction forward needs to be. I don't think the Legislature, with their lack of credibility, has the institutional credibility to do that."

Source: CNBC
Tags: Budget, Taxes, Promise
Jerry Brown
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June 30, 2010

Jane Wells: When will we get that plan? Jerry Brown: That is the plan. The plan is the process. The great mistake has been for everyone to wait until May, instead of starting in November. They're going to go through a process right now - it's going to result in the same deficit. So, going forward next year, we're going to have to make the tough choices. And the reason I say it's a process, unless the people are brought in, you can't just eliminate the prison system, or the university, or raise the age of education, or massive taxes. Anything you do, whether to cut or to save revenue, is going to require a vote of the people. And that's really my plan, is for the first time level with the people and tee up a couple of key choices on what the direction forward needs to be. I don't think the legislature, with their lack of credibility, has the institutional credibility to do that.

Source: CNBC
Tags: Budget, Policy or issue position
Jerry Brown
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June 30, 2010

Well, because you have to start at the top, I'd start with the governor's office, I'd cut that to the maximum degree. Same with the legislature - get rid of the perks. We need a period of austerity by the leadership to communicate the message that we're doing everything we can. And this is a big budget. It's $100 billion, just in the general fund in spending, more in special funds.

Source: CNBC
Tags: Budget, Specific policy point or details
Jerry Brown
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June 30, 2010

Democratic gubernatorial nominee Jerry Brown also criticized the secretive budget process at a meeting of district attorneys in Monterey. He said both parties will have to make unpalatable sacrifices, which they haven't yet been willing to do. "The operating instructions in Sacramento today are just borrow until they won't give us any more money, create illusions of revenue that will never come, and cuts that will never be realized, and just keep the ball moving until you get out of town," Brown said.

Source: Associated Press
Tags: Budget, State legislature, Assertion of fact
Jerry Brown
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June 30, 2010

So we have to understand as a people, and I think other states are facing the same problem, that the world has changed in the last two and a half years, and we have to reset everything that we were expecting so that the spending and the revenue are aligned. You can't do that in two or three months. It's going to take a workout period. And in order to have that period, the people themselves are going to have to vote to have the constitutional change that will allow an extended workout plan. And then at the end of that, I think the people themselves have to understand what we have to cut. It's not just waste and fraud and abuse. It's changing what it is state government does, and how it does it, and what it pays for.

Source: CNBC
Tags: Budget, Policy or issue position
Jerry Brown
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June 16, 2010

As far as specifics, Brown was close lipped. He said he learned what not to say from Republican Steve Poizner, who got hammered by his opponent Republican Gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman for once proposing to make it easier to pass school bonds. "So don't expect to get anything like that from me," he said. "Mum's the word."

Source: KTVU (FOX San Francisco)
Tags: Budget, No comment or deflection
Jerry Brown
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May 18, 2010

Now, the governor presents a budget, puts it together in secret, pops it out in January and everybody says let's wait til May, because in May they're going to do another check in on the economy and then maybe start talking about it when we go a couple months and they have phony revenues and illusory budget cuts. You got to get honest here. You'll watch this budget. They'll get to the end and say well I know how we can save billions. The end of the budget year, which is where you measure, is June 30. So instead of paying people June 30, we'll pay them July 1 and that will save billions. And then the next year, the next day, you're in the hole by whatever the amount you saved, and that's how they've been surviving. That's what you call a smoke and mirrors budget. I'm going to do the best I can to be honest with you to restore public confidence.

Source: Citizen submission
Tags: Budget, Leadership style, Policy or issue position

Meg Whitman’s plan for balancing the state’s budget relies heavily on cuts: cuts in the state workforce; cuts to state worker pensions; cuts in various boards, commissions and other government programs; and cuts to welfare programs.

Perhaps her most controversial proposal has been a plan to cut the state workforce back to 2004-2005 levels by eliminating upwards of 40,000 government positions through attrition and targeted layoffs. She has estimated that a flexible hiring freeze would save more than $3 billion a year.

Whitman’s plan calls for raising the retirement age from 55 to 65, extending the pension vesting period, requiring higher pension contributions (something Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has already begun negotiating) and shifting employees into plans resembling 401(k) retirement accounts rather than the guaranteed pensions they currently enjoy.

Whitman would also create a statewide grand jury to root out waste and fraud in state government. The idea is similar to a plan once proposed by Schwarzenegger, though his most ambitious plans largely fizzled. Whitman's plan also suggests establishing what she calls a Sunset Commission to review regulations and suggest eliminating or consolidating redundant government agencies.

The fourth pillar of Whitman’s cutting plan, welfare reform, calls for enacting a two-year limit on welfare benefits; requiring able recipients to work, perform community service or earn a GED; and upgrading computer systems for collecting child support. She wrote about the issue at length in a January editorial in the Orange County Register.

Combined, she has estimated that those four reforms could save the state $15 billion each year – enough to make up for more than three-fourths of the current budget deficit. The rest of the deficit, she has said, would be offset through increased revenues from business growth, spurred by targeted tax cuts such as eliminating or reducing taxes on things like capital gains and manufacturing equipment.

Like Brown, Whitman has consistently talked about starting the budget process earlier and has proposed vetoing bills that are not focused on core state problems. She opposes Proposition 25, which would eliminate the two-thirds vote required to pass a budget, but has voiced support for a two-year budget cycle rather than the one-year cycle in place now. She also supports a cap that would tie state spending to a number of economic factors, such as gross domestic product.

Key statements

Meg Whitman
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Sept. 1, 2010

Whitman opposes reducing the two-thirds threshold, believing it is an "important taxpayer protection that she believes needs to remain in place" spokeswoman Sarah Pompei said. Whitman has no official position on Proposition 25.

Source: Sacramento Bee
Tags: Budget, State legislature, Specific policy point or details
Meg Whitman
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Sept. 1, 2010

“There needs to be five meetings a week of the Big 5,” she said. “The Big 5 would have been in the governor's office, under my leadership, every day. I would have chained them to the desk to get this done.

Source: Los Angeles Times
Tags: Budget, Leadership style, State legislature, Specific policy point or details
Meg Whitman
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Sept. 1, 2010

"The inability of California's legislature to pass a budget on time is a profound failure of leadership. The budget process begins in January and must be treated with urgency at that point - not months later. For too long, Sacramento politicians have not been held accountable for failing to pass a budget by the Constitutional deadline of June 15th. If I am elected Governor, I will work toward an on-time budget each and every year. But if we don't have a new budget by the start of the new fiscal year my first year as Governor, then I will support measures to ensure that for each day that California goes without a budget after July 1st, legislators would be prohibited from fundraising, they would forfeit their pay and tax-free per diem and they would lose taxpayer-funded travel to their districts. The bottom line is that taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook to pay politicians while they're missing budget deadlines and damaging the stability and fiscal health of the state.

Source: Meg Whitman campaign
Tags: Budget, State legislature, Specific policy point or details
Meg Whitman
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Aug. 13, 2010

Well, first is, I have got to get the administration, my own administration, set up correctly. I have got to get the right people in the right job because a lot of cost can be taken out in the context of your administration without the Legislature. For example, using technology to do more with less, using technology to fight fraud, reorganizing and streamlining can be done within the context of the administration, and then, with the democratically controlled Legislature, here is what we are going to have to do. We are going to have to work on a small number of things, and I want to veto everything that is not focused on creating jobs, getting government spending under control, or fixing our K-12 education system.

Source: Fox News
Tags: Budget, Jobs, Leadership style, State legislature, State workers, Policy or issue position, Specific policy point or details
Meg Whitman
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Aug. 11, 2010

Right, well what you have highlighted every day on this show about Bell is the perfect example of what is wrong with government in California and why Sacramento is also very broken because the state workers have very generous pension benefits. Maybe not quite as generous as Bell, but very generous pension benefits. This will cause California to run out of money, and we have to reset these pension benefits, so I want to renegotiate with the very powerful unions. We have to raise retirement ages. We have to extend vesting periods, meaning the amount of time that you have to work before you get those benefits. The employees will need to contribute more to their pension program, and for new rank-and-file public servants, they are going to have to come in under a different deal probably like what you get here at the station, a 401(k) program, not a guaranteed payout.

Source: KTLA
Tags: Budget, Spending, State workers, Specific policy point or details
Meg Whitman
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July 28, 2010

Host: Do you support Schwarzenegger getting stimulus money to fix the budget deficit? Whitman: Well, I think historically, not this very moment, but historically California has been a donor state, meaning we send more money to the federal government than we get back. So, I do think Gov. Schwarzenegger's doing the right thing. I think the likelihood of that happening is extremely low and so we have to solve our own problems. And how I want to do that is I want to eliminate $15 billion worth of costs out of the state government over three or four years. I want to get the economy going by cutting taxes, by streamlining regulation and having a good economic development team.

Source: San Francisco Chronicle
Tags: Budget, Taxes, Specific policy point or details
Meg Whitman
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July 22, 2010

Detractors say she is telling each side what it wants to hear. She has made it clear, however, she supports primary education for the children of illegal immigrants. "I say the exact thing to Latinos as I say to Anglos," Whitman said.

Source: Reuters
Tags: Education, Immigration, Policy or issue position
Meg Whitman
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July 13, 2010

The fact is state revenues have declined to nearly the same level as they were in 2004-2005 and the size of state government must be reduced accordingly. To return the bureaucracy back to its 2004-05 level, I have proposed eliminating about 40,000 government positions—from today’s unsustainable 356,000 down to 313,000. The best way to achieve this goal is to eliminate positions after people voluntarily leave them for retirement or other jobs. About 10,000 people retire from state government every year and the number has increased recently. By eliminating positions after people leave them and only rehiring mission critical positions, we can effectively reduce the costs of government and protect vital public services. Contrary to what the leaders of the CNA would have you believe, we can balance the budget and reduce the size of the bureaucracy without requiring mass layoffs of government workers.

Source: Meg Whitman campaign
Tags: Budget, State workers, Assertion of fact, Specific policy point or details
Meg Whitman
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June 30, 2010

No, I'm not in favor of a simple majority. What I am in favor of is a two year budgeting cycle. I think that will make a big difference. And I am in favor of getting to work on this budget much, much earlier. It was completely predictable in January of 2010 that we are going to find ourselves in the position that we find ourselves with a $19 billion budget deficit. Why the legislature and the governor were not working to find all the possible cost savings as early as January, I do not know.

Source: Sacramento Bee
Tags: Budget, Policy or issue position
Meg Whitman
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June 4, 2010

I am not a supporter of furloughs. I think you are better off, right-sizing the size of government. Getting the size of a workforce that we can afford, as opposed to penalize everyone with a certain amount of hours per week. The problem with furloughs is everyone gets hurt. We don't really right-size the government. I would be in favor of attrition. Obviously, 10-to-12,000 people separate from the state every year. If we had a hiring freeze we would be down 36,000 workers over three years. And then, selective reduction. The truth is, we have a government that we cannot afford and we are going to have to right-size it.

Source: Hogue in the Morning (KTKZ)
Tags: Budget, State workers, Assertion of fact, Specific policy point or details
Meg Whitman
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May 26, 2010

After she contended that waste and fraud were "everywhere," she was asked by a reporter about Schwarzenegger's past assertion that the amounts of waste are not as large as he charged when he was a candidate. "I think he's wrong on that. I think there is this money to go after," she said.

Source: Los Angeles Times
Tags: Budget, State legislature, Policy or issue position
Meg Whitman
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May 25, 2010

Kudlow: Is there a chance for marginal tax rate relief? Whitman: There is, but it's going to take a little bit of time. The truth is we cannot afford a 10 percent across the board tax cut right now. It's totally unrealistic given that we have got a $20 billion budget deficit and an unrealistic plan is an irresponsible plan. It will only serve to increase the debt load on California. We are already carrying the highest debt load we have ever had, $53 billion in debt in California. Next year just to service the debt will be $7.1 billion, nearly 10 percent of the general fund. So it's unrealistic right now. So ultimately, let's get people to work, cut $15 billion of spending out of the budget and then let's turbo charge the economy by making sure that we can then put in place an across the board tax cut. So I want to do an across the board tax cut, but it's just not realistic right now.

Source: The Kudlow Report (CNBC)
Tags: Budget, Economy, Taxes, Assertion of fact, Specific policy point or details
Meg Whitman
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May 25, 2010

Kudlow: How do you close the remaining $5 billion? Whitman: You put Californians back to work. We have lost $20 billion of tax revenues, roughly, because of the recession and because of rising unemployment rates. The number one priority is you have to put Californians back to work. There is no way out of the financial mess unless you reduce the unemployment rate. Larry, you understand this. When unemployment rates are high you have declining tax revenues, but you've also increasing costs. We're running $237 million a week in unemployment benefits in California. So, we're in a financial vice. So that's why I am here in Orange County today talking about how we are going to put Californians back to work and reduce the unemployment rate. I have a plan to create two million new private sector jobs by 2015, and that's absolutely essentially to return California

Source: The Kudlow Report (CNBC)
Tags: Budget, Taxes, Welfare, Assertion of fact, Policy or issue position
Meg Whitman
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April 19, 2010

The campaigns did not provide budget projections to back up claims that a capital gains tax cut would lead to increased long-term revenues. Whitman's campaign acknowledged that eliminating the capital gains tax could have a short-term cost to the state treasury. "The regulatory and tax policy proposals are all designed to create 2 million jobs by the end of her first term," Pompei said. Those jobs, she added, "will increase revenues for the state."

Source: Sacramento Bee
Tags: Budget, Jobs, Taxes, No comment or deflection, Policy or issue position
Meg Whitman
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March 25, 2010

"We should preserve the defined benefit for the people who are keeping us safe every day," said Whitman. But the rest of California's civil servants, she said, should have "quite a different program" - which would raise the retirement age and provide a "401(k)-style retirement plan."

Source: San Francisco Chronicle
Tags: Budget, Government services, Specific policy point or details

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